NPOCP - Project seats

"Ramblin Rover - The Vivisector of Solihull" (RamblinRover) 01/10/2014 at 21:22 • Filed to: None

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Bad Idea Hat > Ramblin Rover - The Vivisector of Solihull 01/10/2014 at 21:24

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That's incredibly rough. No other options?

jsmizira > Ramblin Rover - The Vivisector of Solihull 01/10/2014 at 21:27

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Unless you want the original seats I highly recommend something other than what you are looking at... For a lot cheaper.

Ramblin Rover - The Vivisector of Solihull > Bad Idea Hat 01/10/2014 at 21:27

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Not for that specific option. What I want is fairly unique: an unequal split-bench of a certain cut, unusually narrow, preferably on a lifted steel frame. The only "perfect match" setups I've encountered so far are the early FJ-40 and the Jeep Tuxedo Park, though some others come close. As seats, these are quite cheap compared to some, but would need a reupholster badly, of course.

Bad Idea Hat > Ramblin Rover - The Vivisector of Solihull 01/10/2014 at 21:28

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The seat on the left looks doable, but the one on the right is a horror show. You'd be better off copying the parts and having someone build you a brand new seat from what's there.

Ramblin Rover - The Vivisector of Solihull > jsmizira 01/10/2014 at 21:30

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You'd think there would be a cheap option out there for what I want, but so far there isn't. See the earlier post: I may end up building something, but I want a narrow, relatively high unequal split bench with divorced frame, fold, and a vintage style overall shape with no headrests. Not a lot of choices, and you'd be surprised what seats other than junkyard bargains go for, even this shady.

Louros > Ramblin Rover - The Vivisector of Solihull 01/10/2014 at 21:31

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Those would be CP even at $2.50. Jesus christ.

jsmizira > Ramblin Rover - The Vivisector of Solihull 01/10/2014 at 21:32

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I don't know what country you are in but I would see if you can make a rear bench out of a van or older SUV like a ford expedition work.

Ramblin Rover - The Vivisector of Solihull > Bad Idea Hat 01/10/2014 at 21:33

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Quite right. The frame appears solid, the springs are there, but foam and skin would have to be fresh. That's understood, and even so, these seats would probably be a bargain if it weren't for the shipping cost. Seating of any kind runs expensive, and whole seats of any sort are murder, let alone whole seats of what I want, which don't appear to exist new.

Ramblin Rover - The Vivisector of Solihull > Louros 01/10/2014 at 21:35

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You'd be surprised what people will pay for frames and spring sets, and a pattern to copy. Reinventing the wheel and getting it right can be expensive. In fact, these are by far the cheapest FJ-40 cushions *in that condition* I even found for sale - puzzle over that one.

Ramblin Rover - The Vivisector of Solihull > jsmizira 01/10/2014 at 21:38

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Thought of that (US). Actually, one of the closest stylistic matches I've found is the rear seat from an early 90s F-series Supercab, but the framing is a bit... odd and they're designed to fold up, not down. I'd have to build a frame to support from the back. The Expedition ones have fitment issues as well, and van seats are much too tall for the Ranchero's cab without a lot of modification.

Bad Idea Hat > Ramblin Rover - The Vivisector of Solihull 01/10/2014 at 21:38

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Just because, I went on Cincy craigslist to try and find seats from the FJ40 or CJ5.

I now have PTSD. The cars were either bad, really bad, terrifying post-crash remains, or restored but oh so expensive.

You're a braver man than me.

Louros > Ramblin Rover - The Vivisector of Solihull 01/10/2014 at 21:38

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I believe it. It's crazy what some people will pay for "original parts." I am for sure not one of those people.

Ramblin Rover - The Vivisector of Solihull > Louros 01/10/2014 at 21:46

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Simply because I want a style of part that's close to original in my vehicle *but different*, I'm just about priced out of the game. Because the part I would want *is* original parts for *somebody else's ride*, and those people want quite a lot.

My existing bench is badly due a reupholster (not as badly as these), and the costs of that sort of thing (horribly enough) make the seemingly extreme cost of these in comparison a lot less. Try as much as $500-$600+ for the job to be acceptable, at which point one starts to wonder if paying $200+ to have a better thing being re-skinned is worth it regardless. If I were, say, to buy an original-style equivalent single bench for, say a period Chevy to put in, it could easily be $1000+.

The other option is a junkyard, but that leaves hours of searching and in the end a seat at maybe half the price at best (time factored) that isn't really what I want...

The other other option is making a frame and hoping to get cushions to look right on it blind, which is like hoping for a good result from quasimodo stitching it with his good eye closed.